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		<title>By: pvdhamer</title>
		<link>http://peter.vdhamer.com/2009/08/11/colormunki-review/comment-page-1/#comment-1213</link>
		<dc:creator>pvdhamer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2010 11:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t have my HP B9180 anymore. It broke down (see my blog).

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;my prints are dark&quot;.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Assuming... 
&lt;ul&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;these are prints of photos (and not the calibration color patches)&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;you are allowing the application to manage color (as you stated)&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;you are using reputable glossy or lustre paper (which?) so that you have access to reliable ICC profiles and don&#039;t have to worry about problems with mat/matte paper&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;the printer driver is set to the right ICC profile for your printer/combination (profile source?)&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

...this usually means your monitor is not properly calibrated (set too bright, use 120 cd/m2 or less). Your monitor can simply be brighter than typical room lighting. You print can never have brighter white than room lighting. You monitor can. So &quot;prints too dark&quot; almost always means &quot;monitor too bright&quot;. Calibrating your printer will make very little difference compared to using ICC profiles from your paper vendor (HP, Ilford, whoever).

In fact, I would first get basics right by calibrating your monitor and getting the printer settings right. Thus postponing actual calibration of the printer using the ColorMunki. If all is setup well, you will find that the fine-tuning using the ColorMunki produces a minimal change which you might not even be able to see.

&lt;blockquote&gt;how to print the color patches. I printed with the option application manages color. But it didn’t do it.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Unfortunately, that doesn&#039;t win a prize for clarity. Prints still too dark? Or printing of color patches failed? Or calibration using ColorMunki Photo failed?

My guess is &quot;prints still too dark&quot;. And my guess is that it is due to the monitor being set too bright (this is a standard problem, and the standard solution). Once you fix the monitor part, it will look a lot darker on screen (like on paper). And then you can decide how to tweak the image.

If this doesn&#039;t solve things:
* check Youtube for how-to videos
* Google on &quot;prints too dark&quot; and confirm my suggestions. E.g. Northern Light has a good posting with that title.
* get a book or DVD on color management or Luminous Landscape&#039;s DVD on &quot;Fine Art Printing&quot;. It is cheaper than the Colormunki and may pay for itself in terms of less wasted prints. 
* send me screen shots of the relevant setup menus: device driver, Lightroom/CSx, Colormunki (I will send you an e-mail)
* there is an HP B9180 support group on yahoo groups. Check their archive: you will certainly find &quot;prints too dark&quot; there.
* once you get more confidence with the basics, try being more precise on what you are doing. I bet (hope) XRite support doesn&#039;t normally give up on customers... they could have provided all the above info with no specific knowledge about the HP printer.

Peter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have my HP B9180 anymore. It broke down (see my blog).</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;my prints are dark&#8221;.</p></blockquote>
<p>Assuming&#8230; </p>
<ul>
<li>these are prints of photos (and not the calibration color patches)</li>
<li>you are allowing the application to manage color (as you stated)</li>
<li>you are using reputable glossy or lustre paper (which?) so that you have access to reliable ICC profiles and don&#8217;t have to worry about problems with mat/matte paper</li>
<li>the printer driver is set to the right ICC profile for your printer/combination (profile source?)</li>
</ul>
<p>&#8230;this usually means your monitor is not properly calibrated (set too bright, use 120 cd/m2 or less). Your monitor can simply be brighter than typical room lighting. You print can never have brighter white than room lighting. You monitor can. So &#8220;prints too dark&#8221; almost always means &#8220;monitor too bright&#8221;. Calibrating your printer will make very little difference compared to using ICC profiles from your paper vendor (HP, Ilford, whoever).</p>
<p>In fact, I would first get basics right by calibrating your monitor and getting the printer settings right. Thus postponing actual calibration of the printer using the ColorMunki. If all is setup well, you will find that the fine-tuning using the ColorMunki produces a minimal change which you might not even be able to see.</p>
<blockquote><p>how to print the color patches. I printed with the option application manages color. But it didn’t do it.
</p></blockquote>
<p>Unfortunately, that doesn&#8217;t win a prize for clarity. Prints still too dark? Or printing of color patches failed? Or calibration using ColorMunki Photo failed?</p>
<p>My guess is &#8220;prints still too dark&#8221;. And my guess is that it is due to the monitor being set too bright (this is a standard problem, and the standard solution). Once you fix the monitor part, it will look a lot darker on screen (like on paper). And then you can decide how to tweak the image.</p>
<p>If this doesn&#8217;t solve things:<br />
* check Youtube for how-to videos<br />
* Google on &#8220;prints too dark&#8221; and confirm my suggestions. E.g. Northern Light has a good posting with that title.<br />
* get a book or DVD on color management or Luminous Landscape&#8217;s DVD on &#8220;Fine Art Printing&#8221;. It is cheaper than the Colormunki and may pay for itself in terms of less wasted prints.<br />
* send me screen shots of the relevant setup menus: device driver, Lightroom/CSx, Colormunki (I will send you an e-mail)<br />
* there is an HP B9180 support group on yahoo groups. Check their archive: you will certainly find &#8220;prints too dark&#8221; there.<br />
* once you get more confidence with the basics, try being more precise on what you are doing. I bet (hope) XRite support doesn&#8217;t normally give up on customers&#8230; they could have provided all the above info with no specific knowledge about the HP printer.</p>
<p>Peter</p>
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		<title>By: ranjan</title>
		<link>http://peter.vdhamer.com/2009/08/11/colormunki-review/comment-page-1/#comment-1211</link>
		<dc:creator>ranjan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2010 05:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a B9180 and got a colormunki! But my prints are dark! When I talked to colormunki support they say they don&#039;t have that printer so they could not guide me to trobleshoot. Could you please tell me how to print the color patches. I printed with the option application manages color. But it didn&#039;t do it. 

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

thanks,

ranjan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a B9180 and got a colormunki! But my prints are dark! When I talked to colormunki support they say they don&#8217;t have that printer so they could not guide me to trobleshoot. Could you please tell me how to print the color patches. I printed with the option application manages color. But it didn&#8217;t do it. </p>
<p>Any help would be greatly appreciated.</p>
<p>thanks,</p>
<p>ranjan</p>
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		<title>By: Epson Stylus Pro 3880 Review &#124; Peter.vdHamer.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Epson Stylus Pro 3880 Review &#124; Peter.vdHamer.com</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] my case, I did a calibration (using an XRite ColorMunki spectrometer) to create an ICC profile for the remaining HP A3 Advance Glossy paper I still had from my previous [...]</description>
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		<title>By: pvdhamer</title>
		<link>http://peter.vdhamer.com/2009/08/11/colormunki-review/comment-page-1/#comment-576</link>
		<dc:creator>pvdhamer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 21:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Calibration of screen and in some cases printer is done with software supplied by the calibration hardware vendor (here: XRite). If you don&#039;t have the hardware to calibrate your printer, you should make sure that you use an appropriate ICC profile for the printer/paper combination.
Once you get that done, many post-processing software products can be used for the actual printing: Photoshop, Lightroom (that&#039;s what I use), Aperture, etc. The post-processing software is not critical for the actual color management (that is done by the operating system), but if you go mainstream, it is easier to find the right information on how to set up color management related settings.

Hope this helps,
Peter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Calibration of screen and in some cases printer is done with software supplied by the calibration hardware vendor (here: XRite). If you don&#8217;t have the hardware to calibrate your printer, you should make sure that you use an appropriate ICC profile for the printer/paper combination.<br />
Once you get that done, many post-processing software products can be used for the actual printing: Photoshop, Lightroom (that&#8217;s what I use), Aperture, etc. The post-processing software is not critical for the actual color management (that is done by the operating system), but if you go mainstream, it is easier to find the right information on how to set up color management related settings.</p>
<p>Hope this helps,<br />
Peter</p>
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		<title>By: Stacey</title>
		<link>http://peter.vdhamer.com/2009/08/11/colormunki-review/comment-page-1/#comment-575</link>
		<dc:creator>Stacey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 21:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What would you recommend as the best software to use to ensure accurate pc to printer colour?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What would you recommend as the best software to use to ensure accurate pc to printer colour?</p>
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